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# Patreon Podcast #2- Jesse and Matthew
- URL: https://www.matthewbogart.net/2020/12/30/patreon-podcast-2-jesse-and-matthew/
- Published: 2020-12-30T23:14:28.000Z
- Updated: 2021-11-25T12:43:40.000Z
- Author: Matthew Bogart
- Tags: # Uncategorized, Patreon, #wp

I just published a new [episode](https://www.patreon.com/posts/45606432?ref=matthewbogart.net) of the Patreon only *Incredible Doom* behind the scenes podcast, where in Jesse and I talk about our partnership. We cover both the creative and legal relationship we’ve developed as well as the importance of talking things through before a project gets under way.

You can either listen to the episode [on the web](https://www.patreon.com/posts/45606432?ref=matthewbogart.net), in the Patreon app, or [using the podcast player of your choice.](https://support.patreon.com/hc/en-us/articles/212055866-Subscribe-to-your-Audio-RSS-link-on-the-Patreon-app?ref=matthewbogart.net)

### Early story meeting

As mentioned in the episode here’s [a link to the un-edited audio of a story meeting from before we settled on the plot for Issue #1](https://www.matthewbogart.net/incredible-doom-story-meeting). The violent act we keep searching for in this issue ended up being a combination of Allisons dad locking her in a trunk, and later, throwing their pet rabbit across the room.

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